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Notes: “Women in the tech industry” (discussion)

Questions

  1. How much are we doing? Are we doing enough?
  2. What could we improve?

Shared experiences

  • A colleague recently blogposted about this topic, a lot of critiques in comments and so on.

  • Hélder added a post-it in the “feedback wall”, saying: “necesitamos más mujeres”. Everyone is welcome to contribute with possible actions which could help in that direction. “Please, contribute!”

  • Inclusive example @ SoCraTes Canaries (embracing multi-gender reality, thanks of the reality of one of the attendees).

  • Inclusive language @ Software Crafters Madrid, e.g.: using “chicas” (girls) instead of “mujeres” (women) systematically to refer to women.

  • In reaction to these kind of discussions/initiatives, a new “movement” has born in kind of the opposite direction (anti-feminism?). They are known as “Red pill”.

  • A lot of men don't interact often with women.

  • Some hurting comments heard as a woman:

    • “You're good as a woman.”
    • “You're so sexy with that glasses...”

    Notice that not only is hearing those comments, also the reactions (these kind of behavior is, unfortunately, still socially accepted) from most folks observing them.

  • Software Crafters Madrid, trying to improve in this regard, organized a Kata, sponsored by Adalab and mostly directed to women, but none of them showed up.

  • In my company there's a “Comité de igualdad”, from a department so-called “people” (not HR). They do a lot of things to avoid discrimination against woman. As example, a colleague used inappropiate language with me, and he ended up being fined.

  • “Let's hire this girl because she's so hot.”

  • Diversity workshop @ Codemotion

    • Stand up whoever has experienced... (almost everyone)
  • Meetings where a male colleague repeats what the speaker is saying to a female colleague.

  • Automatically “assign” certain tasks to woman (e.g.: the person who collects the money for a present)

  • As a woman looking for investment, from investor: “hey, you better look for a guy...”.

  • Received message(s) @ LinkedIn, along the lines of: “hey, are you single or married?”

  • People (audience) staring at me in a weird way when I present tech topics (like they are surprised).

  • (Supposedly diverse-friendly) Event in Poland where they didn't allow a mother to access with her kid.

  • A participant of a diversity workshop: “I'm embarrassed to say that I'm studying software”

  • (Even) My (female) friends at the University: “you're weird” (because of studying software)

  • Teacher at the uni: “don't put too much effort, you'll end up anyways at home taking care of your children.”

  • You must be like a man to work with us. I know you have menstruation every month and it causes you changes of humour. You must be a balanced person in order to work with us.

  • You discover solutions very quickly, before your colleagues and all of them are men. You must keep quiet if you don't want to have problems with them.

  • "It's the same I thought", continuously.

  • "I'm going to teach you how to ..." without asking before if I know about it.

  • I don't trust you, because you don't have a Facebook account. I cannot see public photos about you.

  • I went to JBCNConf18 and I won one prize of Zara who was sponsor. The prize consisted of three man T-shirts (size L) and a man perfume. They didn't expect women in this event.

Thoughts

  • Woman in tech vs woman in communities.
  • A lot of men don't know the problems they suffer.
  • Companies could/should/must do way more, it's the first place where this mindset and initiatives could/should/must be implemented.
  • “I'd like to reach a point where positive discrimination isn't needed.”
  • We need a lot of patience! We've been doing certain things for years (e.g. non-inclusive “craftsmanship”). Don't let “not successful” experiences bring you down, keep doing a lot of different things (Laura).
  • Consider anonimyzing applications (resumes, cover letters) to avoid bias.
  • From women to men, tips:
    • Speak up, a lot!

    • Raise your voice against unequalities.

      Unfortunately, men are heard way more than women. Please talk about this, we encourage you!

    • Talk about emotions. At the end, all this creates an extremely negative energy which is difficult to cope with.

    • You men could do a lot by just treating/speaking right/normal to the women in your life (friends, family, etc.).

  • Men, when corrected (in terms of inclusive language, behavior, etc.) should listen, learn and change.
  • A simple (encouraging/correcting) sentence helps a lot. Say it, even if you think that the other person already knows it, whatsoever.

Action items

For women:

  • Don't give up
  • Join women communities like Women Techmakers, Women Who Code, ...
  • Surround yourself with positive, supportive men.

For men:

  • Stop & think. If women organize events with all women speakers or there are a lot of women in tech communities, they signal a problem.
  • Next event you attend, please look for a woman in your company and go with her.

Unspoken

  • Adalab @ Barcelona
  • It's not about “wasn't my intention”, at all.