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Feedback

Here’s a more or less complete list of feedback we’ve received on the initial blog post: http://blog.hood.ie/2013/11/say-hello-to-offline-first/

Twitter

Notable Mentions

https://twitter.com/zeldman/status/397772772757082113 (Zeldman!)

https://twitter.com/zeldman/status/397803004155674624

https://twitter.com/GEdesign/status/397817548584259584 (@GE!)

https://twitter.com/johnallsopp/status/398013349096460288 (@allsopp!)

http://blog.hood.ie/2013/11/say-hello-to-offline-first/ ALA!

https://twitter.com/codepo8/status/397812845917646848

Quotes

I totally love this http://blog.hood.ie/2013/11/say-hello-to-offline-first/ … #offlinefirst — https://twitter.com/distilledhype/status/397780420701736960

Glad to see this "offline first" initiative in mobile development. We need it! http://offlinefirst.org/https://twitter.com/elisabethrobson/status/397784989288251394

The best places on Earth are offline >> RT @janl: Geography is non-negotiable — http://blog.hood.ie/2013/11/say-hello-to-offline-first/ … #offlinefirst http://offlinefirst.orghttps://twitter.com/ideasasylum/status/397791194669129728

We're in almost in 2014, glad to finally read #offlinefirst on my timeline. Was about time :) — https://twitter.com/me_bx/status/397794684862730241

As field linguist, who aims at useful web apps for researchers in the field and the office, I couldn't be more excited about #offlinefirst — https://twitter.com/fxru/status/398055549352550400

Offline First. Because, no, the Internet really isn't everywhere. http://t.co/cJ4fMT1H0Ehttps://twitter.com/mikeloukides/status/397774819233906688

This is exactly what we do with remoteStorage.js: offline first! http://t.co/v0jvRo1XSUhttps://twitter.com/remotestorage_/status/397776026551738368

Interesting idea, and an ironic screenshot to back it up - http://t.co/sNWscZuSin http://t.co/CapmVYd21phttps://twitter.com/smdly/status/397779256044167168

That's some unexpected and thought-provoking set of ideas. RT “@zeldman: Offline First! http://t.co/2tOzcJbsp2”https://twitter.com/eugenekudashev/status/397784377222234112

Team @hoodiehq pushing an important discussion forward: Say Hello to Offline First – http://t.co/ZKckz5AyxFhttps://twitter.com/kriesse/status/397814019652075520

Big Ups today to @hoodiehq pushing the web forward promoting Offline First approaches! I'm so excited. http://t.co/c7oIR4bh5Lhttps://twitter.com/ironfroggy/status/397829802939666433

team @hoodiehq asking the next big question: what about using web apps offline? http://t.co/Wt7HhvL5KAhttps://twitter.com/electricgecko/status/397829862129664000

How fuckin cool that somebody realizes... <3 Say Hello to Offline First - http://t.co/9s4LVkdxjzhttps://twitter.com/henningsprang/status/397851974026420224

"@zeldman: Offline First! http://t.co/sIuwcNj358" I agree, a complete UX should contemplate both predictable and accidental offline use. — https://twitter.com/sannicolof/status/397875106950959104

Fault-tolerant applications for the real world of intermittent connectivity http://t.co/tlfDOmb66A #mobile #UX — https://twitter.com/simonblackley/status/398023993061810176

Offline first as complementary to a mobile first strategy sounds logical but there's still much to be talked about http://t.co/PHjf03DBmShttps://twitter.com/saertus/status/398036176160190464

It's 6 years since the iPhone and most mobile apps still treat network partitions as an error state. This is quite astonishing. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398057290051231744

It's also great to see an open source project seriously considering end users, not just developers. Good work hood.ie :) https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398057635351506944

The UX questions are interesting. Faye has handled offline transparently almost since it launched, but sometimes the user needs to know. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398057947315449856

Related to hood.ie, I've built offline apps without it but still using CouchDB, and it's really good for that. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398058305089572866

It provides just about the right tools you need to implement simple sync, conflict detection and merging, and its auth system is nice. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398058546203336705

For some apps you can almost just make Couch your entire backend. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398058785362558976

Essential reading on "offline" (not strictly offline, also includes slow/patchy connectivity) by @aanand http://t.co/YjdbZyuWOZhttps://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398060682488205312

He's right about designing for offline from the start. A protocol designed around procedural CRUD operations is hard to retrofit offline to. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398060868367175680

Mobile apps (native and web) need to adopt messaging- and sync-based protocols rather than vanilla REST, and they need to consider UX. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398061136605483009

"Couldn't fave the tweet" I don't care, push the fave when you're back online, I'm not staying at this scroll point and waiting myself. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398061397059190784

Android text messaging gets this right. "Could not send your text right now but we'll send it asap." — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398061617864142848

For other things the user must be told their messages are deferred, and in some cases they must be able to cancel them. No silver bullets. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398062389263736832

e.g. have a look at a messaging or sync model, because bolting retry/cancel onto a request-based interaction model gets weird fast. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398064065131454465

CAP theorem for mobile: P is definitely going to happen, and frequently too. Deal with it. — https://twitter.com/jcoglan/status/398065097202868224

After Jake Archibald’s talk at the Chrome Dev Summit, Nov 20th, 2013

@janl @jaffathecake is talking offline first at #chromedevslummit right now. — https://twitter.com/HenrikJoreteg/status/403233685844926464

Mobile first, offline first, content first, cross browser.. can't we just rename all of these to 'The Right Way To Make Something' — https://twitter.com/ShaneHudson/status/403233715016314881

A network connection is a "potential enhancement" for your (mobile) site. Offline first. #chromedevsummit — https://twitter.com/bobebert/status/403233931241070592

#chromedevsummit offline first is the next generation of progressive enhancement — https://twitter.com/bobebert/status/403233931241070592

"Treat the network at a potential enhancement." Yes, this! @jaffathecake offline first — https://twitter.com/HenrikJoreteg/status/403234042931589120

.@jaffathecake "offline first" (talking about ServiceWorker) #chromedevsummit — https://twitter.com/keynotesystems/status/403234220757110784

// Mobile first, is so last month. It’s about offline first. #chromedevsummit @jaffathecake — https://twitter.com/HenriHelvetica/status/403234823096922112

Though new APIs are always nice, FT has solved a lot of 'offline first' problems with judicious use of localStorage, etc. #chromedevsummit — https://twitter.com/RussB/status/403235192678006784

Agreed @jaffathecake offline first = win. Been doing so via FileSystem API lately. ServiceWorkers can't happen soon enough. #chromedevsummit — https://twitter.com/justinribeiro/status/403235489412431872

Enjoying watching @jaffathecake talking progressive enhancement with “offline first” showing the new ServiceWorker API #ChromeDevSummit — https://twitter.com/ginader/status/403235738788962304

How to build "offline first" Web experiences using ServiceWorker http://t.co/Q4JHLUs8SU my notes from @jaffathecake talk #chromedevsummit — https://twitter.com/lukew/status/403236720138674176

#chromedevsummit @jaffathecake says offline first is the next generation of progressive enhancement — https://twitter.com/keynotesystems/status/403237904052281344

@lukew @jaffathecake Can see this becoming the new 'mobile first' - "assume people are offline, then enhance if they are actually online." — https://twitter.com/pobdev/status/403237950580064256

Great talk about focusing on offline first when doing web development from @jaffathecake at the #ChromeDevSummit — https://twitter.com/m_kautzmann/status/403239166311690240`

General Offline Thoughts

Wish the Foursquare app was offline useable, so I could view my todo list while roaming offline through a city. Jelle Ackermann – https://twitter.com/jellea/status/419408108838854657

Hacker News

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6676369

I hope this becomes a popular maxim - fed up of offline not working for productivity tools (not necessary for other types of apps, but Trello is a shining example of this omission making productivity apps near-useless). — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6676516

Anecdote: after finding a small scorpion on the bathroom wall in the Honduran jungle, I had a huge compulsion to tear everything apart to make sure there's no nest. The only thing that calmed me down was access to offline, text-only Wikipedia on my Nokia n800. It was 2 a.m., slept like a baby when I found out this species was harmless. To this day, I never travel without it. (Edit: Wikipedia, not the n800 ;) — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6676661