Rust SIG meeting 2025-09-02

[darkwisebear]

Attendees

@PLeVasseur 🦀💬
Naveen Ravi 🚶
Elena Gantner 🦀🚗 (Notetaker)
Vamsi Peddina 🦀
Rama
@darkwisebear
Kalidas Rajendran

Agenda

1. Solicitation of notetaker
2. Acceptance of Previous Meeting Minutes
3. Review GitHub repo content and discuss how to enrich (Pete)
   Issues
   Discussions are now active!
4. "Eclipse Rust SIG” Oxidize Conference KeyNote Check-in (Christian)
5. Office hours

• Rama: ZF
• https://github.com/rustfoundation/safety-critical-rust-consortium
• Eclipse S-CORE
  • Rust as first-class citizen, even for IPC proposal:
  • https://github.com/eclipse-score/inc_mw_com/tree/main_api_rs
  • https://github.com/eclipse-score/communication/tree/main/score/mw/com/example/ipc_bridge

6. Discuss upcoming events / news related to Rust & Automotive (All)

• https://blogs.eclipse.org/post/dana-vede/sdv-hackathon-chapter-three-tale-two-cities

7. Roundtable (All)
8. Meeting close

Tasks

• Pete: follow up with John about the availability of Notes from the c++/rust-interop-initiaive

Minutes

• Revisiting last times meeting minutes
  • Meeting minutes accepted
• Rust-sig github repo is now set up and ready to use
  • github.com/rust-sig/rust-sig
  • Discussions are setup -> Meeting notes can be migrated over
    • Markus will do that for one as a prototype
• Item 4 skipped for today, as Christian is absent
• Office Hours
  • Rama (ZF) using rust for prototyping in sovd. Request from Management to evaluate rust in safety-critical context. He is currently collecting information about this with the help of the different rust groups. Deadline for handing in Notes to ZF management end of year
    Pete: offer to share different knowledge bases we as rust-sig have knowledge of (for link see agenda point 5.b).
    To join the consortium (or subcommittees) the issues in the safety-critical consortium repo can be used
    S-Core could also be a good resource for rust in automotive context. Markus gives a short info about the goals there with rust. See agenda point 5.c.ii for an example of an api there
    Markus notes that diagnosis solution for score will be using opensovd
  • Vamsi: is there already a code generator for rust for the COM idl?
    Markus: no - the interface is defined in c++ and macros will translate the interface to rust. Bindings from c++ to rust are still generated by hand. Markus notes that in the target solution this should be automatic and not ‘'visible’' to the users. An example can be found at the link in agenda 5.c.iii
• Upcoming events
  • 4.9. Pete will give a ‘'community talk’' at rust con related to safety critical rust. Hopes are to attrackt people related to the field and connect them to the groups.
  • c++/rust interop initiative has another meeting today (2.9.) at rustcon. Pete will check if the notes will be publicly available.
  • Eclipse sdv hackathon is happening in from 30.9.-2.10 (see 6.a). Pete will attend
  • Markus asks if anyone will be at oxidise. Markus will maybe attend.
• Roundtable
  • Vamsi: is there any focus on the micro-controller side? Most seems to be focused on hpc.
    Pete: there is some initial support from Electrobit and Vector for rust on µcontrollers
    Vamsi notes that there are some production ECUs fully in rust.
    Markus: is this ECU safety related?
    Vamsi: the ECU is power related, so it should be safety related context.
    Rama: at the moment Rust is still quite far away from production use in their company.
    Coding guidelines from the safety-critical rust consortium come into play here to support the safety certification process